Overcrowding, overbuilding

topic posted Sun, July 22, 2007 - 5:37 AM by  Sienna
Is anyone else bothered by the new type of housing that is being stuffed in between the existing houses around here? I just saw 3 condos stuffed into what was once the side yard of an older craftsman-style home, and they are actually being SOLD.

My question is this; who buys this type of house, and are the buyers the actual people going to live there? Or are these just cheepo rental units that are being sold to real-estate moguls as rental property?
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Sienna
  • Re: Overcrowding, overbuilding

    Mon, July 23, 2007 - 8:22 PM
    The short answer is it depends on the development, but generally the small-scale stuff (one or two lots) are private individuals. What neighborhood is this? Hough is going apeshit with get-rich-quick investors who are buying the crappiest-looking houses from the oldest and poorest, then jacking them up to add basements, gutting them and then doing them up in "corporate funky" landscaping and colors. At least three houses had this happen to them between Hough Elementary and the downtown post office.

    When it is a single house it is usually a single "flipper" while the two-lot or apartment-building condo conversions are usually builders working with a single landlord looking to get out of rentals. More than a block (such as west of Kauffman or with the new "Arnada Commons" and stuff such as RiverWest that will go in south of The Academy) is big-time developers with budgets in the millions.

    None of these people wiill live in these, but they are often the only way single people or young families can afford anything in this market. Census tract 421 had the most drastic infill between 2000-2004, I believe, and Steve Burdick estimates 3000 new residential units downtown in the next few years. The Esther Short buildup was only the beginning. Wait until you see what they do with the old Boise Cascade site.

    This gentrification is one of the main reasons we need to get a food co-op built now. In a few years it may not be fiscally feasible, and all we'll get are upscale wine shops and charcouteries for the influx of retirees.

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    • Re: Overcrowding, overbuilding

      Sun, August 19, 2007 - 8:43 AM
      The neighborhood I'm talking about is just north of SR500 off St. Johns. We don't get a cute catchy name for this neighborhood, because it's in between everything.

      My husband picked up the flyer for the three wedged-in condos down the hill. There is no yard, and the engineering of the driveway will be killing people shortly because no one obeys the speed limit on St. John's. The flyer states (and I love this!) "Top Notch Standard Features." WTF is that supposed to mean????

      The flyer also states that these thrown-together-in-the-rain matchstick houses are going for sale for about $20,000 less than what we paid for our 3600 ft. monstrosity-of-an-old-farmhouse 6 years ago. This tells me that either A) my property value has gone up higher than I ever imagined, or B) someone is overpricing this junk.
      • Re: Overcrowding, overbuilding

        Sun, August 19, 2007 - 5:42 PM
        I live in the St. Johns neighborhood of Portland, grew up in the Portsmouth neighborhood and currently work there. It's happening all over out here, too, everywhere that there's 30 feet to squeeze in another tall, skinny house. My dad built houses for a living and these things just reek of cheap to me. But hey, I could be wrong, if they feature "top notch standard features". Makes me want to go to an open house in one of those babies to answer your WTF question!

        Your A and B assumptions are both correct. Just wait till you get your next property tax bill!

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